Posted by: Through the Eyes of Women | December 15, 2017

Awake Through Dreams, Celia Drill

Celia Drill is an accomplished author and poet, her new book of poems is due to be released this December 2017. Awake Through Dreams is a compilation of over 50 poems in new format to engage poetry lovers as well as those new to the craft of wordsmithing. She evokes the many worlds we move in and out of, awake and while dreaming. I invited Celia to read for this edition of Through the Eyes Of Women, and her poems are just that, through the eyes of a woman, soft and fierce, dreamy and sure footed. Thank you Celia, and I hope you all enjoy her readings presented here.

Celia holds an MFA and has studied with the likes of HSU Professor and author Judith Minty as well as Frances Mayes, author of Under The Tuscan Sky. Celia remembers doing readings at the old Jambalaya in Arcata with other local poets such as Jerry Martien, Jim Dodge, Vincent Peloso, Teelyn Mauney and many others who were around Arcata back during those times. They were rich times and many artists and poets bloomed to share their gifts with us all.


To listen to and/or download this segment click the following link:TTEOW 12-11-17 Danielle and Celia

Posted by: Through the Eyes of Women | November 27, 2017

11/27 and 12/4, 2017 Julia Butterfly: 20 Years Later (Part 1 & 2))


Julia Butterfly Hill with support from Luna. Photo courtesy of Shaun Walker.

It was almost 40 degrees on a Wednesday night. In the woods above Stafford, California an unknown activist from Arkansas hoisted the last of her supplies up into an ancient redwood under an almost-full moon.

738 days later, Julia “Butterfly” Hill descended as an environmental icon.

Julia had no idea what she was getting herself into. All she knew was that she wanted to help save the redwoods. With the assistance and encouragement of forest activists Geronimo, Shakespeare  and Almond she climbed into Luna and made herself at home.

Throughout her tree sit, Julia was supported by a core of activists, among them were Spruce, Rising Ground, and Shunka. This ground crew brought Julia food, mail, batteries, new tarps and anything else to make her stay in Luna as easy as possible. They carried out her waste, used batteries and the many letters to her supporters.

That first winter, 1997-1998 , was one of the most brutal ever, with record-breaking winds, rain, snow, and cold. Julia was not prepared for that winter, but managed to get through it. She prayed a lot, and she learned from Luna. One life-saving lesson Julia learned from Luna was not to fight the wind, but to go with it, to go with Luna as she swayed back and forth.

In addition to the weather, Julia also had to deal with the workers of the Maxxam Corporation. They wanted Julia out of that tree and did everything in their power to accomplish that… which they never did. Loggers yelled threats, shined spotlights on her all night, buzzed Luna with helicopters, and many more threats. Through all of this Julia remained and Luna stood tall.

Media became a crucial element to the success of Julia’s tree sit. Word of her survival reached beyond the Redwood Curtain in February 1998 on Julia’s birthday. By then she had spent two months in Luna, and people were becoming interested in what she was doing. Initially, interviewers were more interested in “the how” of living in a tree, specifically how did she “go to the bathroom.” After explaining her bucket system to the world, Julia could finally get to “the why” of the tree sit: saving the last 3% of old growth redwoods and stopping the logging practice of clear cutting forests.

Julia Butterfly Hill and Geraldine Goldberg

I am Geraldine Goldberg, a former staff member at KHSU and currently a volunteer. At the time Julia was in Luna I was a host on the KHSU afternoon Magazine. When I heard about Julia, I knew I wanted to talk to her. What started out as a 5 minute chat in early March, 1998, became a weekly feature for the rest of the time Julia was in Luna. Every Tuesday afternoon just after one, I would call her and we would discuss what was going on in the forest and in her life. We talked live each week, and I recorded the conversations. There are about 100 in all.

I had all of mine and Julia’s conversations transcribed and I used the transcriptions to write my Master’s thesis in Sociology. The thesis is in the HSU library, and a librarian told me it has been very popular.

Today, Luna still stands tall despite being savagely attacked by a chainsaw in 2000. The good folks at Sanctuary Forest are taking good care of her.

To find out more about Julia and to read some of her writings check out

Part 1 & 2

To listen to and/or download this segment click the following link:20001_TTEOW JHill part 1 11-27-17_program


To listen to and/or download this segment click the following link20001_TTEOW 12-4-17 Julia part 2_program


Long-time community diabetes activist, diabetes policy advocate and blogger, mother and wife, Christel Marchand Aprigliano believes that to live optimally with a chronic illness, you have to have support from friends, family and peers who live with the day to day, moment to moment challenge of facing something that never goes away.

Usually I write a blog about the phenomenal women I have the privilege of interviewing.  As I was preparing for my interview with Christel, I came across a hypothetical letter she wrote to her younger self, when she was first diagnosed with Type I Diabetes at age 12.  Here it is:


September, 2013

Dear Christel,

You knew what the doctor would say when she stood in the doorway of the examining room, staring at the expedited lab work. The checklist in Time magazine you’d read in class a week earlier gave you all the clues. (And sweetie, you really should have been studying.) You’d mentally checked every box next to the symptoms that warned “you might have diabetes.”

Now it’s confirmed, but you have no idea what that really means. Mom and Dad do, however, so the crying and whispering to each other are justified. You all will never be the same.

Sorry about all that candy that you won’t be able to eat, left in the pastel Easter basket and soon to be thrown away while you’re at Joslin Clinic. It’s a big bummer to be diagnosed the day after Easter. I’ll let you in on a secret: Years from now, you will enjoy chocolate and candy in small quantities. Not that sugar-free junk that is a waste of carbohydrates and only makes your stomach sound like a garbage disposal, but the good stuff.

It’s going to be rough for a while. You and your parents are on the steepest learning curve you’ll ever experience. There’s an expression: “drinking from a fire hose.” You’ll have your lips wrapped around that hose for a good, long time. You, Mom, and Dad will sit in classes with other shell-shocked patients and parents, wondering if the universe will collapse under the weight of all that knowledge.

Eventually, you’ll get into the swing of things, and it will feel as if everything is almost back to normal, except for the shots and the testing and the measuring and weighing of every tiny morsel of food. I’m telling you now: It’s not. It’s not normal, and even 30 years from now it won’t be. But I am here to tell you that it gets better.

Here are important things to know:

  • That lady you will meet in the patient lobby at Joslin Clinic with the backpack thingy? It’s called an insulin pump. It gives you freedom: to eat when you want, sleep in, take extra insulin when you need it and less when you don’t. Pumps will get a lot smaller over the next 30 years, and you will wonder how you ever lived without one. You will wait until 1999 to get a pump, but it will be worth it.
  • People who give you that pitying look or tell you horrific stories about someone they know with diabetes? You will quickly school them, but you will be nice about it. You’ll smile when you tell them the difference between type 1 and type 2 diabetes (or whatever they’re called, because the names keep changing) and that you know a lot of people who are healthy with this disease. Smile even though you want to kick them in the teeth.
  • You will “diagnose” four people in the next 30 years, because they come to you asking questions about their symptoms. (Sorry, you are not a doctor. Remember that fear of needles and blood? Never goes away.) They will come to you because eventually you will not be afraid to tell the world you have diabetes. There will be a time in your teens when you want to keep it a secret. There will be a time when you lie about your blood sugars to your parents and your doctors. You will regret that later. You will also regret a lot of other things, including that one night … . Oh, never mind. You’ll find out.
  • Food will be an issue for you. You know how much you like pizza and bagels? They are not your friends. Neither is tequila. I’m warning you now, but you won’t heed most of this. Thirty years from now, you will try to keep your blood sugars in range when you eat these items, but you still won’t have it figured out. (Although you will get close. Dual wave bolus. Yeah, you have no idea what I mean, but that’s OK.)
  • Complications will happen to you, but you will consider yourself lucky that they are “fixable” ones. You will also consider yourself invincible for a while, which is perhaps why the complications will develop in the first place. You will feel guilty for what you do—and don’t do—and you will hate yourself. Love yourself. Please. You have one body and you’ll need to love it as much as possible for the rest of a long (crossing fingers) life.
  • Why? Because someday (and I’m not telling you when, because there has to be some mystery), you will meet a funny, sweet, and sexy man who thinks that you are also funny, sweet, and sexy. And he won’t care that you have a chronic illness. He will stick by you when you are sick and watch over you when you are low. I’ll give you a hint: It’s not that guy you currently have a crush on. He’ll become a loser who uses steroids. Eewww. Second hint: It’s not Michael J. Fox. He’ll still be hot, and he’ll have his own health issues one day.
  • Diabetes technology will get better, but you won’t think it happens fast enough. Lancets will hurt for a long time, needles won’t get shorter for years, and some technology will downright fail. But life will improve, and there will be great things on the horizon.
  • When someone tells you a cure is only “five to 10 years away,” just nod. You will believe this for five years. You will believe this for 10 years. You will stop believing, but you will never stop hoping. And that’s what will keep millions of us going in our darkest hours: hope.
  • You don’t know any other people with diabetes right now. You’ll meet some at Joslin, but you won’t get close to anyone. There are camps, but your parents will want you to not feel different, so they’ll send you to camps with “healthy” kids. To this day, I have no idea how you survived—and I’m talking about the bugs. You hate them. You still do.
  • But one day, you will know a lot of people with diabetes. You will meet them via computer (not the one Dad uses for work in the basement that you play Zork and Adventure on and create simple Basic programs with). You will meet them in person. They will welcome you into their homes and their lives. You will laugh with them and cry with them. You will share your deepest fears, and they will not placate you or blow you off, because they will have the same fears. They will become part of your family. Embrace that. I only wish you had found them sooner.

Thirty years from now, you will sit in front of a computer, staring out into a rainy afternoon, grateful to be who you are and wishing you could have heard all this after your first insulin injection in the ER. I’m not sure it would have helped, but it couldn’t have hurt.

And the one thing I really wish you knew?

That class you will take at Joslin, where they will tell you that someday you can have a successful pregnancy?

They will be right.


All my love,


For more information about Christel go to her blog

To listen to and/or download this segment click the following link20001_11-13-17 edited for Encore-corinne-Christal Aprigliano-diabetes_programs



Wendy Crisp Lestina says she has never seen her father -he died in WWII when Wendy was 16 months old- BUT he has seen her, and with an urgent message: 


And she has!


“My father visited me once, in a dream when I was 50. In the dream I was standing on the river bar, barefooted…..He came up behind me, on my right. I didn’t turn. I knew who it was and I knew he was wearing shoes, street shoes, on the river bar.”  

And so begins A BIT OF EARTH, Wendy’s latest book. It is a compilation of her weekly columns in the Ferndale Enterprise. She wrote them for 15 years and the stories are a reflection of her big life. Full of Love, Humor, Irony and Reflection of rural and city landscapes. Hard times and Happy times. Starting up and starting over.


Wendy Crisp Lestina has been called a born brinkswoman. She’s been a magazine editor, newspaper columnist, speaker, and is a great cook. For her writings on behalf of women & children, Wendy has been awarded an honorary doctorate of letters from Middleburg College, Vermont. She is an active volunteer and member of the board of directors of several not-for-profit organizations in Humboldt County. You can find regional documentaries by movie-maker Wendy at the Ferndale Museum




Wendy and husband John opened their “family farm” to visitors. Waldner Farm in Ferndale as an Airbnb welcomes you with  borscht, omelets, homemade breads and so much more from Wendy’s book Old Favorites from Ferndale Kitchens. 




Brenda Starr and Wendy Crisp Lestina

Brenda Starr and Wendy Crisp Lestina

For more information about Wendy and Waldner Farm visit

Local purchase of Wendy’s book include: Rings Drug Store,Times Remembered,Ferndale Museum, Mind’s Eye Coffee and Eureka Books.



To listen to and/or download this segment click the following link:20001_tteow-12-5-16_program


Other Books By Wendy Crisp Lestina Include:





Marci HamiltonMarci Hamilton is the Paul R. Verkuil Chair of Public Law at the Benjamin L. Cardozo School of Law at Yeshiva University in New York City, and a widely regarded scholar in constitutional law. She is an expert on and advocate for the U.S. Constitution’s required separation of church and state.   Her book, God vs. The Gavel: The Perils of Extreme Religious Liberty, teaches us about the First Amendment, it’s history, it’s effects of promoting the greatest good for greatest number of people, and how it is being co-opted by extreme religious concerns in ways that can be very harmful to others through the Federal and State legislative passage of Religious Freedom Restoration Acts.  She cites incidents of polygamy, child abusing clergy and parents denying their children life-saving medical care as examples of harmful religious actions hiding behind supposed religious liberty. God v Gavel As a religious person herself, she says religious belief and harm caused by belief, are separate things and protecting those who do harm in the name of religion is a dangerous trend in interpretation of constitutional law.

When Dr. Hamilton  is not teaching and arguing cases before the Supreme court she promotes adequate protection for minors, individuals and landowners.

Professor Hamilton has been honored as one of Pennsylvania’s Women of the Year; received the National Crime Victim Bar Association’s Frank Carrington Champion of Civil Justice Award; the E. Nathaniel Gates Award for outstanding public advocacy and scholarship; and the Lifetime Achievement Award for Pro Bono Legal Service to veterans groups. She clerked for Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O’Connor.

To learn more about Dr. Marci Hamilton and her book, God vs. The Gavel: The Perils of Extreme Religious Liberty, go to

To listen to and/or download Kathleen’s conversation with Marci Hamilton click the following link:     10-27-2014_Kathleen_Marci Hamilton

Dr. Sweet is an Associate Clinical Professor of Medicine at the University of California, San Francisco, and a prize-winning historian with a Ph.D. in history. Her experiences working for 20 years at Laguna Honda Hospital in San Francisco provided her with the inspiration and material to write.  She says “As I grew up in medicine, I found myself changed by my patients and I started writing and thinking about everything that came up, early on. The concept of a medicine as a calling and a vocation; the archetype of a physician; the linguistic connection between wholeness, healing and salvation; the split between curing and caring.”

Just about three years ago I had the pleasure of interviewing Dr. Victoria Sweet about her book “Gods Hotel” where she introduced the concept of Slow Medicine.  Now in her new book “Slow Medicine:The Path To Healing,” she explores the concept in depth.  Slow medicine may sound revolutionary in today’s culture of efficiency, productivity and profit but truly, practicing slow medicine is rooted in the the soul of healing.  As she so eloquently writes  “There is a  secret that economists have missed in their attempts to fix the problem. And that secret is, that what one wants as patient and as doctor is the right diagnosis and the right treatment. But to get that, speed, technology, and efficiency—Fast Medicine—are not enough. What patient and doctor also need, in addition to wonderful technologies, is time. Time may not heal all wounds but it heals very many of them, and having enough time, though so inefficient on paper, turns out to be the most efficient healthcare of all. In Slow Medicine: The Way to Healing, you’ll meet the doctors, nurses, and patients, and experience the events that have led me to this conclusion.”

So much of what Dr. Sweet writes about in her books on healing and medicine can also be applied to how we live our lives in general, how we relate to people and the world around us.



To listen to or download this segment, click the following link: TTEOW – Victoria Sweet – Slow Medicine

Posted by: Through the Eyes of Women | October 16, 2017

10/16/17; Generational Trauma Gets Passed To Descendants

The history of Native and Indigenous people in California is told through many lenses. According to Deborah Miranda—author of the book Bad Indians: A tribal Memoir, the stories of her people and many others who survived decades of persecution and genocide under colonialism, the gold rush and California missions, have not been told by enough native perspectives.

Miranda, who identifies as a member of the Ohlone-Costanoan Esselen Nations, talks with Through The Eyes of Women host Natalya Estrada about the struggles of writing about tribal history, personal and family memories and culture. The book, which was originally published in 2013 received several awards including the PEN-Oakland Josephine Miles Literary Award, a Gold Medal from the Independent Publisher’s Association, and was short listed for the William Saroyan Literary Award. Bad Indians: A Tribal Memoir is now taught in universities around the world.

Miranda will be speaking at Humboldt State University about her book on Thursday October 19, 2017 for the Indigenous Peoples’ Week Event Series through the department of Environmental Science.

The presentation is a free public event and will take place on campus at the Behavioral & Social Sciences Room 162 in the Native American Forum beginning at 6:30 p.m..



To listen to and/or download this segment click the following link:  20001_TTEOW 10-16 _program 

Posted by: Through the Eyes of Women | October 9, 2017

October 9, 2017-Inside Out: Raising the Bar on Inmate Re-entry in Humboldt County

By Caterina Kein

Vanessa Vrtiak (Left) and Stacy Farmer (Right)

Vanessa Vrtiak, Programs Coordinator for the Humboldt County Sheriffs Office (HCSO), and Stacy Farmer, founder of Sisters That Been There join us at KHSU’s studios to discuss the 3rd Annual Prisoner Re-entry Fair in the Humboldt County Correctional Facility.  This event, to be held on October 23rd and 24th and which is closed to public, will host 15 service providers and employers who will meet with currently incarcerated persons and provide them with community resources and employment options.  The program has been recognized statewide and an award will be presented by the Humboldt County Board of Supervisors on October 17th.

Stacy Farmer, also discusses her organization Sisters that Been There, which she founded after her release from incarceration in 2011.   Farmer has been working with families of post-incarcerated persons to provide resources and support after their experience within the prison system.

Together, they discuss the unique challenges faced by women inmates both inside and outside, and examine the particular needs that post-incarcerated women face including: parenting support, appropriate employment, addiction and mental health services, medical care, transportation, and housing.  Both Vrtiak and Farmer are committed to balancing the needs of community with the needs of post-incarcerated persons, and together are helping to make Humboldt County a safer place for everyone.


To listen to and/or download this segment click the following link: 20001_TTEOW 10-9_feature

Amy_Stewart_Delightful_Eye_Photography_3800_Cropped_WebHumboldt’s beloved bestselling author, artist, independent bookstore co-owner and cocktail gardening proponent, Amy Stewart, is currently on tour with the third in her hit Kopp Sisters series, “Miss Kopp’s Midnight Confessions.”

Stewart uses historical fiction to explore “big” issues. Woven into her historical fiction, this time, is a tale centered around so-called “morality crimes,” in which women can find themselves both perpetrator and victim. Paralleling issues seen around the world in 2017, Stewart’s characters of the early 20th century can find themselves punished for their own protection.

Bonus: The fourth Kopp Sisters book is already written! Attentive listeners will pick up clues to discipline and self-care that answer the question “how does she do it?”


To listen to and/or download this  segment click the following link: 20001_TTEOW Amy Stewart 10-2-17_program


What is your earliest memory of money?  What did you learn about money from your parents? Why is it easier to talk about sex than money in our culture? Do we really need to accumulate money?  How much is enough? In what ways do couples share money? Do men and women differ in how they deal with money? Are there ways to maximize assets and minimize taxes? What investments have been the most helpful in lifting people out of poverty?

These are some of the questions that have lived in the back of my mind for a long time.  Luckily I was fortunate to be introduced to Kimberley Pittman-Schulz who has had a long career in helping people from all walks of life donate to charities that reflect their personal values.  Kimberley has  been involved in philanthropy for over 30 years working for various local, national and international non-profit organizations supporting conservation, medicine, community development, small business and higher education.  When not involved in fundraising, Kimberley is a published poet and nonfiction author.  I was hoping that Kimberley would be able to read one of her poems but she had so much information to share about our relationship to money that we ran out of time. I could see that Kimberley’s ability to articulate deep emotions in writing spill over into her work with philanthropy, which if done well requires insight, compassion and the ability to guide people to use some of their money in a way that can fulfill their heart’s values, keep them financially safe and go way, way beyond consumerism.


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