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Sometimes it seems like we live in divisive times. Sometimes, we are just never going to agree on certain topics. Author and nonprofit founder Aspen Baker says that’s no reason we can’t be kind to each other.

Moved by her personal experience as a Christian woman who has had an abortion, Baker started the nonprofit organization Exhale, described as “a caring, nonjudgmental space for men and women to share their feelings about abortion, without choosing sides,” and wrote her book “Pro-Voice: How to Keep Listening when the World Wants a Fight.”

In today’s show, Baker shares her vision for a world in which we can discuss difficult subjects and even disagree, without getting all shouty. This may be a novel notion in a society whose media and entertainment and politics depend so much on loud conflict and strife, so it will be interesting to see how it flies. Good luck, Aspen! Good luck to us all.

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To listen to and/or download this interview click on the following link:7-27-2015 Emma_Aspen Baker_Exhale_Final

jennysue_bio“When I was little, I would sit in a box and draw pictures. Eventually, my studio expanded to my closet where I made up characters and neatly archived them in blue binders (including hundreds of made-up Smurfs). I would sit on the green shag carpet under hanging clothes with my older sister Renee sitting in her office on the far other end of the long, skinny closet. She wrote poems and said I could be her illustrator… I decided then that I’d always be an artist. When I was 8, I won my first art contest with a drawing of Santa Claus. I still remember the phone call—it was the first time I ever remember crying because I was happy…I find a lot of inspiration for my art and stories from my life: traveling+adventures, family+friends, my dog, other pets, and memories.”

Jenny Sue Kostecki-Shaw, quoted above, is the author/illustrator of the picture books, 71a1xlo2czL._UX250_Same, Same but Different (2011), and My Travelin’ Eye (2008), published by Christy Ottaviano Books/Henry Holt. She lives with her family at their mountain homestead in New Mexico.

Her most recent bo61-ctfYCYZL._UX160_ok  Luna and Me, The True Story of a Girl Who Lived in a Tree to Save a Forest (2015) also published by Henry Holt/Ottaviano is about the actual experience of forest activist Julia Butterfly Hill, a young adult whose tree-sit took place from December 1997 to December 1999 in Humboldt County.   Kostecki-Shaw reimagines it as the tale of a young girl and a tree with bright eyes and loving arms. Aided by friends who provide supplies and support that allow Julia to live 180 feet high on an 8 X 8 foot platform, Butterfly braves fierce storms, intimidation by loggers and her own loneliness and fear. Despite these challenges, Julia remained in the tree for 738 days coming down only when Luna and the surrounding grove were guaranteed protection from logging. Jennie writes and illustrates a beautiful and uplifting book that brings Julia Butterfly’s courageous story to children.  This book encourages children to follow their passion.

jkosteckiredwoods1Luna still stands, protected by Sanctuary Forest, a nonprofit organization located in Southern Humboldt that focuses on land and water restoration and conservation.

To listen to and/or download this segment click the following link:7-20-2015 Corinne Jenny Kostecki-Shaw Final

For around a century now, Humboldt County has been the backdrop of numerous feature films, as big as ET and Star Wars. Our Victorian architecture, redwoods and rivers lure film productions who energize our economy while they stay and shop. This last fiscal year about 17 productions came up to shoot projects in our region. Some, are repeat costumers. Helping these crews have a productive stay in Humboldt and Del Norte counties is Cassandra Hesseltine’s main goal, a goal that helps bring thousands of dollars into our local economy. Some of these funds are “direct dollars” pertaining to the production needs (hotels, cars, gas) but in addition to those, the “indirect dollars” are said to be about three times more and include money that crews spend in their free time (shopping, bars, restaurants).

CassandraHumboldt & Del Norte Film Commission markets our area to film producers, educates local vendors on becoming “film Friendly”, and help film productions while they film in the area. “Essentially, I help connect the dots and mediate between the big film production crew and the county, property owners, vendors, ect.,” said Hesseltine. The Film Commission also works with commercials, TV series, and print media campaigns. The Film Commission services are free of charge and the organization gets its funding by local municipalities and visitors bureaus.

In addition to not denying nor confirming the presence of various film starts in the area, Hesseltine has attracted the attention of the press, recently, when a new film ordinance was about to be adopted by the Board of Supervisors earlier this year.  This ordinance, which is a State mandate, regulates filming permits and gives the film commissioner the power to stop productions when our local resources are in danger. Students and other small local commercial producers are happy to know that they are probably exempt from permits if their production has very low impact on the community. According to Hesseltine, if you need to raise a crane at Arcata Plaza, you probably need a permit but if you’re filming indoor “washing dishes”, don’t worry about it.

Hesseltine’s busy days encompass not only her work with the Film Commission but also her love for theater and her family. Ten years in the film industry gave Hesseltine the insight into the needs of independent film crews. Her theater skills, which also aided her in advancing through the film industry, are honed to this day at Redwood Curtain Theater. Recently, Hesseltine had a leading role in Other Desert Cities. “My true passion in life is to act and direct,” said Hesseltine. ” And I love that I do it in small theater houses.”

Hesseltine enjoys her full life and loves living in Humboldt County.  She invites you to contact her if you know of any interesting locations, register on the Film Commission’s online service directory, and attend their Movies in the Park and Local Filmmakers Night events. In February, 2016, the Commission will celebrate a hundred-year anniversary at its Red Carpet Gala.

Visit or find the Film Commission on Facebook for more information.

To listen to and/or download Kathleen’s conversation with Tania Malik click the following link:  7-13-15 Lilach Assayag and Cassandra Hasseltine


Tania MalikUntil Three Bargains Tania Malik had only written a few short stories, never really thinking of herself as an author.  But, she did have a long story brewing in her mind.  She wanted, she said, to explore a story of a man who had lost a child.  The story was inspired by her own relationship with her father, a relationship that is very close.  What, she wondered, would it be like to have no such attachment?  What would happen to a child who was not valued?  What would a child, and a father, suffer without a close relationship?  What would a child discover as he grew, about himself and those he loved?Three Bargains

Three Bargains is that story.  Beautifully written, the story unfolds.  12 year old Madan lives in the fictional town of Gorapur in Northern India.  He is a lower-caste child who has not only learned to read, but to read in English.  The story spans 30 years in Madan’s life and in India’s history.

In this, Tania’s first radio interview, she speaks eloquently about her characters, their lives, personalities and motivations.  She talks about life in India and reflects on India’s politics, social systems and the status of women.  She writes using many Hindi words and expressions and does not include a glossary in the book; a fact that, I feel, serves to enrich the reading experience.

Tania Malik was born in New Delhi, and raised in India, Africa, and the Middle East. She was educated in boarding schools in the foothills of the Himalayas, and received her degree from the University of Delhi.  She lives with her husband and daughter in the San Francisco Bay Area.

To learn more about Tania Malik and her debut novel, Three Bargains, visit her website at

To listen to and/or download Kathleen’s conversation with Tania Malik click the following link:     8-25-2014 Kathleen_Tania Malik

imagesWhat is less than common knowledge is that California is home to 178 Native American tribes. Most Californians do not even realize that they probably see a Native American on a daily basis.

Lindsie Bear is the Editor of News from Native California magazine, as well as Acquisitions Editor for California Indian books at Heyday, and Director of the Berkeley Roundhouse. Ms. Bear is part Oklahoma Cherokee, raised near the Bishop Paiute reservation in California. In that role she not only witnesses but participates in numerous innovative Native American applications of new media technologies to challenge dominant narratives and promote indigenous cultural revitalization. She received her B.A. in Philosophy and the History of Mathematics from St. John’s College in Santa Fe. She served seven years as Senior Editor and Marketing Manager at the University of California Press before coming to Heyday Books.

Published by Heyday Books, News from Native California is a unique quarterly magazine devoted to the Indian peNNC283cover_web200pxople of California. Written and produced by California Indians and those close to the community, News provides an intimate portrait of traditional and contemporary tribal culture.The journal initially started out as a calendar of events, then grew to become a prominent virtual gathering place and forum for promoting tribal rights for California natives and their friends. Now News has become a physical gathering place as well with the advent of the Berkeley Roundhouse, a series of readings and other social events taking place at Heyday’s Berkeley headquarters or nearby venues that focuses on Native culture and concerns.

To listen to and/or download this segment click the following link:6-29-15 6-29-15 Corrine& Lindsie Bear

Dr. Susan Greenhalgh Dr. Susan Greenhalgh enjoys what she calls ‘thin privilege'; in other words, through no particular effort of her own she is, and has always been, thin.  She is quick to point out, however, that thin doesn’t mean better.  Dr. Greenhalgh is currently a Professor of Anthropology at Harvard University.  Before she moved to Boston and joined Harvard’s faculty she taught for 17 years at the University of California, Irvine.  Fat-Talk Nation:The Human Costs of America’s War on Fat emerged from her experience teaching a course at UC Irvine on ‘The Woman and the Body’ which explored issues of body image, weight, and eating disorders among other topics.  In 2010 and 2011 she offered her students extra credit to write personal essays about weight, diet and the BMI.  BMI is the acronym for Body Mass Index, a height to weight ratio used by medical clinicians, doctors and nurses, to determine if any one person is fit or fat.  BMI calculations are measured in children as young as two, teens, young adults, older adults and the elderly.  According to Dr. Greenhalgh, its universal use in schools, clinics and doctor’s offices could be causing an epidemic of fat anxiety, particularly among young people.Fat-Talk Nation

Fat-Talk Nation offers insights and examples of almost insurmountable weight anxiety in the young adults sampled from those class essays.  No matter where you are in the weight spectrum Dr. Greenhalgh challenges you to look at the role of ‘fat-talk’ in your own lives and the lives of those you love; and then she counsels empathy, kindness and understanding.  To learn more about Fat-Talk Nation visit the website where you can read samples of some of the essays like the one below.

 — Elise; 20 year old Caucasian from Sherman Oaks, CA from her personal story “A Rock Weighing My Spirit Down”

When I was an 8-pound baby who was a week early, it should have been a sign that being skinny would never by my destiny. In high school and college I have been bothered and ashamed by my weight. I noticed that food is my “support” and I abuse it. When I am stressed, I eat. When I am depressed, I eat. When I am angry, I eat. When I am bored, I eat, creating a vicious cycle that is spinning out of control, snuffi ng out the person I am inside. Looking to food to comfort my hormonal and emotional episodes is unhealthy because, if during one of my “feeding frenzies” I happen to gain weight, even just one or two pounds, I fl ip out and feel disgusted with myself. I can feel the disgust manifest in the pit of my stomach like it has a voice, and with every growl and every grubble, it is like a knife into my self-esteem telling me I am too fat and asking why I eat so much.

I believe my problems with my weight began when I was a little girl. My father’s side of the family is very materialistic and looks-based; if you’re not rich, pretty, and skinny, you are nothing. My mother is quite a large woman, and so my father’s mother didn’t like her and always ignored her. When my brother and I were born, my mother gained 60 pounds and my grandmother’s cruel words became more vocal, to the point where as a second grader I knew my grandmother thought my mother was too fat to be with her son. Yet as the years went by and my mother didn’t lose any weight, and I began to grow rounder, her hurtful needle-like words became aimed at me. I will never forget the pain and disgust I felt when I was about in fifth grade. My grandmother, father, and I were at the family restaurant Islands. I was eating a chicken tenders kids meal, yet my grandmother thought this was too much for me. So in the middle of the meal, she looked at me and told me to “stop eating, because if you don’t then one day you will look like that .”

“That” happened to be an extremely large woman in the restaurant, with my grandmother’s finger pointed directly at her. I felt confused and hurt. All these thoughts swarmed in my head: I knew I was big, but was I fat? That day changed my life forever. I have not been able to look at myself the same way again.

To learn more about Fat-Talk Nation:The Human Costs of America’s War on Fat visit

To listen to and/or download this segment click the following link:Kathleen and Susan Greenhalgh

Leira Satlof is the Artistic Producing Director at Ferndale Rep. Leira has an extensive background in Theater Arts. Leira is a graduate of the Manhattan School of Music, where she received a Bachelor of Music degree in vocal performance. After college, she returned to Humboldt to pursue her MFA in directing at Humboldt State University. While in graduate school, Leira directed her first productions at FRT under artistic director Peter Buckley. She also taught voice at both College of the Redwoods and Dell’Arte International, got married (on the FRT stage after a performance of Hound of the Baskervilles!), and had her oldest child, Lynden. She has directed opera, musical theatre, revues, plays, and original works.staff-leira

Leira grew up in Humboldt County. Her mother, Jane Hill, was a  founder of Dell’Arte International, and Leira first set foot in Ferndale Little Theatre as a preteen when the Dell’Arte Company brought their first touring show to the theatre in 1972. In 1995 Leira and her current husband Carl McGahan moved to Santa Rosa with Lynden and their infant son Mathew. Living in Sonoma County offered new opportunities for the growing family. Daughter Olivia was born while Leira taught theater and music at Santa Rosa Junior College, managed several small non-profits, and worked as Cantorial Soloist, assistant to the Rabbi, and music director of Congregation Shomrei Torah in Santa Rosa.

After a fulfilling 18 years in Sonoma County, Leira and Carl decided to return to the home they loved in Humboldt County, and life has come full circle. As a stage director, musical director, teacher, performer, cantorial soloist, culinary artist, gardener and mother, Leira appreciates the arts in many forms. She has also taught at the Dell’ Arte, and has a 15-year history of arts development and administration. Leira is very glad to be once again teaching, directing, and providing leadership in the local arts community.

“To listen to and /or download this segment click the following link”

Jennifer BreaJennifer Brea has Myalgic Encephalomyelitis, also known as Chronic Fatigue Syndrome.  Four years ago, while a PhD candidate in Harvard University’s Government program, she became ill with flu-like symptoms. She endured 10 days of 105* fevers, chills and muscle aches from which she never seemed to quite recover.  A year later, out to dinner with some friends, she could not manage to write her own name on her credit card slip.

ME/CFS is a debilitating illness of unknown origins.  There is no single effective treatment for all patients and there is no cure.  It’s symptoms include fevers, chills, headaches, muscle pain, debilitating fatigue unrelieved by rest, insomnia, exercise intolerance and brain fog.  As the illness progresses many people develop severe allergies and chemical sensitivities.  It is an exclusionary diagnosis.  In-other-words, it is diagnosed after dozens of conditions, such as degenerative neurological disorders like Multiple Sclerosis; endocrine disorders such as Hypo- or Hyperthyroidism; autoimmune disorders like Lupus; and esoteric bacterial infections, are tested for and ruled out.  It renders some people bedridden, while others can have milder symptoms.  For all, it wreaks a profound negative change in life’s ordinary and extraordinary routines.  It affects more women than it does men and was, historically, labeled ‘consumption’ or ‘hysteria’.  While some strides have been made in acknowledging ME/CFS as a legitimate disorder, the vast majority of sufferes still have difficulty being diagnosed and are stigmatized by the medical community charged with helping them. Jennifer Brea with Husband Omar

Jennifer is currently on indefinite medical leave from Harvard University.  She spends a good deal of her time looking for relief from her symptoms while being a vocal advocate for increased research funding.  She is also making a movie about her experiences, and the experiences of four others, with ME/CFS, Canary in a Coal Mine.  All this she does remotely, using web-based technology, from her bed.

Jennifer talks about ME/CFS, her journey with it and the making of her film.  She joined TTEOW for this interview via SKYPE calling from her backyard in New Jersey, where she is currently living in a tent escaping the allergenic effects of molds in her home.

Canary in a Coal MineTo learn more about Jennifer Brea find her on Facebook.

To learn more about Canary in a Coal Mine visit

Host Kathleen Marshall has been living with, or in spite of, CFS for 23 years.

“To listen to and/or download this segment click te following link.”6-8-15 Kathleen_Jennifer Brea


The Supreme Court of The United States has recently listened to arguments over two major decisions related to the rights of same-sex couples: Proposition 8 (State of California) and D.O.M.A. – the Defense Of Marriage Act (US Government).
Their decisions will probably be announced in June –National Gay Pride Month.

lesbianbridesheart Marriage today isn’t what it used to be: for better, not for worse. As same-sex weddings are becoming more common, the classic love-story happy ending is taking on a decidedly new twist, everyone has a fresh role to play, and supporters and opponents of gay marriage alike are finding themselves in the midst of a revolution that’s redefining marriage—both as a personal choice and as an institution—as we know it.

In Here Come the Brides!, editors Audrey Bilger and Michele Kort gather together the voices of women taking part in—and shaping—this major historical shift. Representing a diversity of points of view in terms of race, class, ethnicity, and gender identification, this collection of essays, stories, and visual images takes a multidimensional look at how opening up the traditional order of “man and wife” to include the possibility of “wife and wife” is altering our social landscape. From wedding pictures and images of protest signs to comical anecdotes and sober philosophical analyses, Here Come the Brides! is an exploration of how the legalization of same-sex marriages has irrevocably changed the way lesbians think about their unions and their lives—and a Bilger celebration of the dream of lesbian happily-ever-afters.

Audrey Bilger is a feminist scholar ,and  the faculty director of the Center for Writing and Public Discourse and professor of literature at Claremont McKenna College.

Michele Kort is a writer, editor and author, the senior editor of Ms. magazine, and co-editor of the Ms. Blog. She is the author of three books: Soul Picnic: The Music and Passion of Laura Nyro; The End of Innocence (with Chastity Bono); and Dinah! Three Decades of Sex, Golf, & Rock n Roll.

They have gathered stories, cartoons, plays, editorials, poems and lesbian herstory and have, in true feminist fashion, collected all sides of the issue which has been a gay rights struggle for decades. They discuss their own experiences and how the book came to fruition.

Lesbian Brides


For more information about Audrey Bilger, Michele Kort and “Here Come the Brides” visit: or visit their Blogs.

“To listen to and/or download this segment click the following link:”6-1-15 Brenda_Here Comes the Brides Repeat



A Community Health Needs Assessment is a process that’s been mandated by the Commission on Cancer (CoC) of the American College of Surgeons to evaluate the health needs of a community.  The Assessment will then become the basis for a plan of action by St. Joseph’s Hospital Regional Cancer Center in Eureka. The report takes an in-depth look at the demographics of cancer incidence and death in these counties.  Dr. Korsower volunteered to research an overview of the impact of cancer in the counties of Humboldt, Del Norte, Trinity and southern Curry County in Oregon. In her introduction, Dr. Korsower writes “Our goal is the creation of a Patient Navigation process, but the Assessment itself is not designed to solve the challenges it finds.  It can only suggest areas where attention should be paid.”

The themes of the Assessment included the need for appropriate supportive services, health care access and financial challenges.

By interviewing both patients diagnosed with cancer and primary care providers in the communities she found the following:

Leading incidence rates for cancer  in Humboldt/Del Norte/Trinity counties were (the number of cancers per 100,000 population):

Prostate cancer

Lung and bronchus cancer

Breast cancer

Colon and rectum cancer

Skin cancer.

These counties have a higher cancer incidence rate than California as a whole for the above five most incident cancer sites.

Dr. Korsower also found the following demographics in the service area:

The four counties are predominantly rural.

They are expected to grow in the coming years, but at a slower rate than California as a whole.

The population is older than the average Californian.

There are significantly higher number of people living in poverty, greater than California as a whole.

The racial and ethnicity differs from that of California as a whole with a greater proportion of people who identify as White, American Indian or “two or more races,” but fewer African American, Asian or Latinos.

More of the counties’ residents speak English as their primary language.

There is a higher percentage of people covered by publicly-funded insurance.

And importantly, the entire service area has a shortage of health professionals, and all oncology services for the service area are located in Eureka.

In one year and with her own resources and time,  Dr. Korsower has completed a very important and vital work that hopefully will fulfill the principles promoted by the Sisters of St. Joseph of Orange, namely “Care of the whole person, access to quality health care, consideration for the underserved and marginalized, and stewardship.”

To read the entire document, you can go to

To listen to and/or download Corinne’s conversation with Dr. Diane Korsower click the following link:     5-25-2015 Corinne_Diane Korsower

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